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Scott White

Dear Mr. Fantasy: When two isn't better than one

By | Fantasy Writer


The two-start pitcher. Until Fantasy Baseball converts to daily or even semi-weekly scoring, he will remain the thorn in every Fantasy owner's side.

You want to take advantage of him if he's there, but half the time it backfires, making you wonder why you even made the effort.

No doubt, good things can come from using a two-start pitcher. Having more opportunities is never a bad thing. But at the same time, it doesn't make up for marginal talent.

So where do you draw the line? It's not a simple matter of doing the math. A two-start Jeremy Bonderman, who averages 9.4 points per start, isn't worth as much as a one-start CC Sabathia, who averages 17.9 points per start. Part of the incentive for using the better pitcher is safeguarding against the negative, which Sabathia will do. A pitcher like Bonderman is just as likely to destroy you.

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Not straightforward enough for you? Tough. It's one of those aspects of the game that relies more on feel than anything else.

I have a question regarding pitching with the playoffs coming up. If winning is the difference between moving on or going home, would you use an average two-start pitcher over a dominant one-start pitcher? Everyone seems to side with the two-start pitcher, but I'd rather stick with the horses that got me there. Here are my main starters: Matt Cain, John Danks, Felix Hernandez, Jon Lester and Adam Wainwright. If they were each making only one start and guys like Johnny Cueto, R.A. Dickey, Hiroki Kuroda and Ted Lilly were making two, which would you use? -- Michael Coone

SW: This is a pretty common question -- one I'll never be able to answer to anyone's satisfaction. People want to make it into an all-of-one, none-of-the-other sort of deal, and it's simply not one. It varies from pitcher to pitcher and situation to situation. Sometimes you'll want to start the lesser two-start pitcher, but sometimes you'll want to stick with the reliable one-start guy.

More than anything, the decision depends on the discrepancy between the two pitchers. Is it the difference between a one-start Chris Carpenter and a two-start Kyle Davies or a one-start Matt Garza and two-start Jonathon Niese? It's not an even comparison.

In your specific situation, none of your lesser starters are really all that bad. I'd be happy to start Lilly or Dickey on any of my Fantasy teams. Looking at those options, I think you'd want to get the two-start pitcher in your lineup more often than not.

Here's how I'd approach it. Wainwright, Lester and Hernandez are all clear-cut aces and unbenchable in any Fantasy format. It's not just the good starts that make them so valuable, but the lack of bad starts. Stick with them regardless of matchups or number of starts. Danks and Cain, while clearly your fourth- and fifth-best options, aren't quite as consistent or dominant. I'd prioritize them over your bench options -- especially if they had favorable matchups against the Mariners or Pirates or something -- but I wouldn't shy away from sitting them for a two-start Lilly, Dickey, Cueto or Kuroda, in that order.

That doesn't mean I'd go scouring the waiver wire for a two-start Rodrigo Lopez if I had a shortage of two-start pitchers one week. Too much risk there.

I'm in a 10-team NL-only Head-to-Head categorical league. We're allowed to keep three players based on their draft position, with free-agent pickups counting as eighth-rounders. I'm torn between four players for my three spots. Should I keep Carlos Gonzalez in the sixth round, Troy Tulowitzki in the eighth as a free agent pickup, Mat Latos in the 15th or Michael Stanton in the 21st? -- Jeremy Siegel, New York

SW: Someone cut Tulowitzki in an NL-only league? I understand he was injured, but dang, put him on your bench or something.

But let's not get sidetracked here. The point of this question isn't to critique your competition, but to examine the value of projectability. Too often people fall into the trap of keeping the lower-round pick, assuming it's the better value, when really, value is a relative concept.

Yes, Stanton could be a great deal in the 21st round, but you can't say for sure since he hasn't proven he can do anything other than hit home runs. If he hits 30 homers next year, but with only a .240 batting average and 65 runs scored because he doesn't get on base often enough, what does that make him? A 10th-, 11th- or 12th-rounder? And you know nobody's going to draft him sooner than that -- too much fear of the unknown -- so if you want him back, you'll have plenty of chances to get him, even if it's not as late as Round 21.

Gonzalez, on the other hand, is a known commodity, picking up where he left off late last season to emerge as a five-category stud and the fourth-ranked player in mixed categorical leagues. You know he's a great deal in the sixth round, so why not just keep him? If you throw him back, you're talking about a potential second-rounder in your format. Good luck getting that back.

Tulowitzki is arguably the best shortstop in Fantasy and obviously a steal in the eighth round. Latos is practically an ace in mixed leagues, much less NL-only formats, so he's a no-brainer in the 15th round.

I really don't understand all the debate, Jeremy. Go with Gonzalez, Tulowitzki and Latos and wait until next year with Stanton.

I'm in a 10-team Head-to-Head league with standard scoring. I'm currently in first place, and the guy in second place offered me Tim Lincecum and Francisco Liriano for David Price and Yovani Gallardo. Which two pitchers would you rather have for the stretch run? -- Jason Smith, Edmonton, Canada

SW: Maybe at the All-Star break, I would have called this trade a lucky break for you and advised you to make the move for Lincecum and Liriano, but now, I think it's a case of a proactive owner trying to unload two potential trouble spots before it's too late.

That's not to say Lincecum and Liriano have nothing left to offer and are doomed to failure from now until October, but each comes with some element of risk that Price and Gallardo don't.

Lincecum is still arguably the "best" player in this deal, but his velocity is down. It's been an issue all year but has really started to affect his performance lately. Over his last three starts, he has a 9.00 ERA and a 2.07 WHIP. His numbers are trending the wrong direction for obvious, outward reasons, and that's a headache you don't need if you're already in a good position.

Liriano's numbers are also trending the wrong direction -- he has a 4.35 ERA and a 2.13 WHIP over his last two starts -- but his situation is a little easier to understand. He's going through a dead-arm period, which usually isn't a big deal, but it can sometimes take a little time to overcome. Again, if you're confident in the pitchers you already have, why mess with it?

A few weeks back, I wondered if Price's increased workload would begin to affect his numbers, but with a 2.59 ERA and 33 strikeouts in 24 1/3 innings over his last four starts, he has more or less put those concerns to rest. I'd trust him as my ace more than I'd trust Lincecum, and Gallardo is at least as good as Liriano.

I'm in a 12-team keeper league, and my pitching is great with guys like Adam Wainwright, Felix Hernandez, Chris Carpenter and David Price. I was recently offered Mark Teixeira and Brian Roberts for Hernandez. I wouldn't have any trouble fitting Teixeira into my lineup, and I could use Roberts with Ian Kinsler on the DL. Should I make the trade and then deal one of the second basemen along with Ryan Braun, Jason Heyward or Michael Stanton for a top-tier outfielder? -- Danny Kremen, Harpers Ferry, W.V.

SW: I think most people would be happy to have any of Wainwright, Hernandez, Carpenter or Price as their ace. You have all four, so trading one for extra hitting certainly couldn't hurt. Teixeira is still a stud, making up for his decline in batting average with production in other areas, and Roberts is a nice little throw-in for your situation.

Of course, that throw-in would become meaningless if you then moved one of your second basemen, but if you can wait until Kinsler returns, it's not the worst idea in the world. I'm not sure how much of an upgrade you could expect over Braun -- even with his recent struggles, he's still the eighth-ranked outfielder in Head-to-Head leagues -- but either Heyward or Stanton would be worth shopping. If you play your cards right, you could maybe get a Matt Holliday or a Jose Bautista in return, which would give you a pretty fearsome lineup to close out the season.

I have a logjam going on with Jose Bautista, Josh Hamilton, Carl Crawford, Aubrey Huff and Chris B. Young. I'm currently starting Huff at first base, but Justin Morneau should be coming back soon. Should I look to trade one of Bautista, Hamilton or Crawford for a good pitcher? -- Jim Curtin, Chicago

SW: I don't know if you can assume Morneau will automatically go back to being the .345-hitting, 1.055-OPS guy he was in the first half. His concussion has turned out to be a pretty big deal, and as we've seen from some of the more serious concussions in recent years (hello Ryan Church), players don't always come back the same.

And if that's not a big enough obstacle, Morneau still has a poor second-half track record working against him. He has a career .929 OPS before the break and a .791 mark afterward.

If you're going to trade anyone, I'd campaign for him just so you don't have to deal with the unknown. He obviously has plenty of name value, and some Fantasy owners -- ones much like yourself -- would look at his first-half numbers and assume they're going to continue. I'd wait until he's on the brink of returning and then dangle him for a Justin Verlander or Yovani Gallardo type.

If that doesn't work, I'd try shopping Young over the three guys you mentioned. Bautista, Hamilton, Crawford and Huff are the top four outfielders in Head-to-Head leagues, in case you haven't noticed, so you'll want to hang on to them. Of course, Young is a top-10 option himself, but his strikeout rate still kind of scares me. I'd hate for him to end the season on a long-overdue cold streak.

I'm in an AL-only auction Rotisserie league where each owner can keep up to five players. Which of the following would you keep: Kurt Suzuki at $1, Mark Teixeira at $43, Robinson Cano at $20, Alex Rodriguez at $35, Alexei Ramirez at $24, Carl Crawford at $32, Juan Pierre at $17, Jason Kubel at $7, Francisco Liriano at $11 and Carl Pavano at $2. To further complicate matters, I'm trying to swing a deal to get Felix Hernandez at $29. What do you think? -- Steve Wong, Arlington, Mass.

SW: You know the season is winding down when you get more questions about next year than this year. But keepers are fun too, so let's do our best to tackle these.

Cano is the easiest choice to keep. He's arguably the best second baseman in Fantasy now, so you'd have a hard time getting him back for double that price. Suzuki isn't exactly a stud, but he's the most reliable catcher in the AL after Joe Mauer and Victor Martinez. You have to keep him for a buck. Liriano is back pitching like an ace, so $11 is good value for him, and Pavano, while somewhat of an overachiever, is worth a $2 bid even if he wins half as many games next year.

So you're down to one spot for Teixeira, Rodriguez, Ramirez, Crawford, Pierre and Kubel. Normally, you'd prefer to keep the better players, but you could probably get Teixeira back for a few bucks less next year. Same goes for A-Rod, who wasn't selling for much more than that when he was a clear-cut first-rounder -- something he likely won't be heading into next year. Ramirez and Pierre are nothing special at those prices and not even worthy of your consideration.

Really, your choice comes down to Crawford and Kubel -- both of whom would cost you at least $5 more in a redraft. Crawford is an elite source of stolen bases, which are always in short supply, so I'd probably just stick with him even though Kubel might be the better value. Maybe Crawford will sign with an NL team and make your decision easier.

If you make that deal for Hernandez, I think I'd still go with Crawford or Kubel over him. High-end hitting is more valuable than high-end pitching in Rotisserie leagues, especially ones as deep as yours.

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A.J. Burnett
Yanks, Pirates still talking Burnett
A.J. Burnett, SP, NYY
2/12/2012
News: The New York Daily News reports the Yankees and Pirates continued to talk Sunday about completing a trade for A.J. Burnett, but a baseball source said the sides are still "a good ways away" from agreeing on the final terms. The source added the Pirates are willing to pay $10 million of the remaining $33 million Burnett is owed over the next two seasons, but Pittsburgh has offered "two borderline prospects" in return. The Yankees could be willing to pay more of Burnett's remaining contract if they receive a top-tier prospect from Pittsburgh. A person familiar with the Yankees' thinking believes there is enough common ground that a deal could be completed in the coming days. However, ESPN.com reports their source said the Yankees aren't desperate to make a trade and the team would go to spring training with Burnett if a deal isn't completed.
Analysis: Leaving the Yankees usually has a negative impact on a player's Fantasy value, but in Burnett's case it might be the opposite, especially if he moves to the NL. He has struggled to handle the pressure of pitching in New York and a fresh start could be what he needs. Burnett had some of his best years in the majors pitching in the NL. Still, Burnett would be nothing more than a risky late-round Fantasy pick in mixed leagues.

Josh Johnson
JJ continues to feel no discomfort
Josh Johnson, SP, MIA
2/12/2012
News: The Sports Xchange reports Marlins SP Josh Johnson arrived to the team's spring training complex in Jupiter, Fla., on Feb. 9, more than a week ahead of the Marlins reporting date for pitchers and catchers. Johnson, who has been throwing off a mound near his home in Las Vegas, threw his first bullpen session of the year in Florida on Feb. 10. He felt no discomfort and expects to be ready for the first workouts on Feb. 22. He made only nine starts last year because of shoulder issues.
Analysis: Any encouraging news regarding JJ is welcomed. But Fantasy owners do have to be aware of the risk of drafting him. Of course his potential makes it worth it, but JJ has made it past 30 starts just once in his career. Look to Johnson as more of a No. 2 Fantasy SP on Draft Day, but clearly he has the potential to be your ace if he can stay healthy.

Hunter Pence
Pence likely to hit cleanup
Hunter Pence, RF, PHI
2/12/2012
News: The Philadelphia Inquirer reports Phillies manager Charlie Manuel has to find a cleanup hitter with Ryan Howard expected to miss the beginning of the season recovering from an Achilles injury, and he said his choice going into spring training is Hunter Pence.
Analysis: Pence either hit right in front of or right behind Howard after his acquisition from Houston last season and thrived in the Phillies lineup. He will miss Howard's lineup protection, but might only have to play a month without Howard. In the meantime, Pence should get plenty of RBI chances batting cleanup, and he will still have plenty of lineup protection without Howard. Look to Pence in the early rounds of Fantasy drafts.

Jason Vargas
Vargas expected to pitch in A's series
Jason Vargas, SP, SEA
2/12/2012
News: Mariners manager Eric Wedge hinted Sunday that ace Felix Hernandez and Jason Vargas are the leading candidates to start the team's first two games against the A's in Japan. "That's one of the reasons we're here early, to make sure we get Felix ready and we're probably looking at Vargas right now in regard to the first couple games," Wedge said, as reported by MLB.com. "It is a little odd, but that's OK. That's part of it. We're professionals here and we have to get multiple starters prepared for the regular season. It's not just about those two guys, it's about everybody else as well. We've got a lot of starting pitchers here in camp and we'll see how it plays out. I'm looking forward to the competition."
Analysis: Believe it or not, but Vargas is arguably the M's second-best pitcher heading into spring training. He has been a steady part of the M's rotation the last two seasons. He is 19-25 with a 4.02 ERA and 1.28 WHIP in 63 starts since the beginning of the 2010 campaign. However, he is not a dominant pitcher and has weak strikeout totals, so Vargas is nothing more than a low-end Fantasy SP on Draft Day.

Felix Hernandez
King Felix likely to start game in Japan
Felix Hernandez, SP, SEA
2/12/2012
News: Mariners manager Eric Wedge hinted Sunday that ace Felix Hernandez and Jason Vargas are the leading candidates to start the team's first two games against the A's in Japan. "That's one of the reasons we're here early, to make sure we get Felix ready and we're probably looking at Vargas right now in regard to the first couple games," Wedge said, as reported by MLB.com. "It is a little odd, but that's OK. That's part of it. We're professionals here and we have to get multiple starters prepared for the regular season. It's not just about those two guys, it's about everybody else as well. We've got a lot of starting pitchers here in camp and we'll see how it plays out. I'm looking forward to the competition."
Analysis: Hernandez didn't repeat as the AL Cy Young winner in 2011, but he still had another solid season for Seattle. He went 14-14 with a 3.47 ERA and 1.22 WHIP. He also struck out 222 in 233 2/3 innings. His win-loss record would probably be way better on a top contender, but King Felix still does plenty for Fantasy owners to be considered a top 10 Fantasy SP on Draft Day.

Hisashi Iwakuma
Iwakuma says shoulder is fine
Hisashi Iwakuma, SP, SEA
2/12/2012
News: MLB.com reports Mariners SP Hisashi Iwakuma said his shoulder is fine after he was limited to 17 starts last season in Japan because of a sore right shoulder. "I talked to him at length a couple days ago," pitching coach Carl Willis said. "This is obviously all new to him being in the States for the first time, with a different routine pitching every fifth day instead of sixth or seventh. But he's not an 18-year-old kid either. He has a history of what he's done to get ready for a season and we'll talk daily. Really, at the outset it comes down to me listening to him, because he's the one who knows what he needs to do to get ready."
Analysis: Iwakuma had a 107-69 record in 226 career games in Japan. The right-hander was selected the 2008 Pacific League MVP and winner of the Eiji Sawamura Award (the equivalent of the Cy Young Award) after going 21-4 with a 1.87 ERA. Last season, Iwakuma went 6-7 with a 2.42 ERA and 90 strikeouts in 17 starts. While his numbers overseas are impressive, you know it has been hit or miss when it has come to Japanese pitchers in the majors. Even if Iwakuma lands a rotation spot with Seattle, you won't want to use more than a late-round flier on him.

Tim Hudson
Hudson cleared to increase throwing
Tim Hudson, SP, ATL
2/12/2012
News: The Sports Xchange reports Braves SP Tim Hudson, who is recovering from surgery to repair a disc in his back late in November, had been playing light catch in his yard until begin cleared by doctors this week to increase his throwing.
Analysis: The word around Braves camp is proceed with caution in regards to the veteran Hudson. Pretty much every important Braves official has said they won't rush the right-hander in his recovery, and Atlanta is willing to start the season without him if it comes to that. We will just have to see how he progresses this spring. Consider Hudson an injury-risk, mid-round Fantasy pick on Draft Day. Clearly, he can be a very productive Fantasy option when healthy.

Mike Minor
Minor having early control problems
Mike Minor, SP, ATL
2/12/2012
News: The Sports Xchange reports Braves SP Mike Minor, vying again this spring for the fifth starter's job, said, "All my pitches are everywhere right now." His says his arm feels good, but that it's lagging and he isn't following through. Fortunately, he knows the point of the Braves' early throwing program is to get these preseason inconsistencies out of the way.
Analysis: Minor is considered the favorite to win the final spot in the Braves' rotation over Julio Teheran and Randall Delgado. However, Minor might be needed at the start of the season regardless if Tim Hudson's recovery from back surgery doesn't go as planned. Minor kind of disappointed in 15 starts in 2011. In fact, he has just a 4.74 ERA in 24 outings (23 starts) as a major leaguer and hasn't shown the same type of dominance he did in the minors. Still, the Braves have high hopes for the lefty and aren't giving up on him just yet. If Minor does make the rotation this spring, then look to him as a late-round Fantasy option in deep formats.

Craig Kimbrel
Kimbrel working on changeup
Craig Kimbrel, RP, ATL
2/12/2012
News: The Sports Xchange reports Braves RP Craig Kimbrel is working on locating his changeup, which he may use during the season if he's able to master it. But even if it's not ready for prime time, throwing it helps stretch him out for his fastball. He has yet to throw his curveball.
Analysis: While Kimbrel struggled at the end of the 2011 season, he still dominated hitters for most of the season on his way to winning NL rookie of the year honors. It's good that he is working to get better, but he shouldn't have to change too much since he has been a smash hit since debuting in 2010. Kimbrel is a must-own Fantasy RP and will likely be the first RP selected in many drafts this spring.

Roy Oswalt
Phillies not in running for Oswalt?
Roy Oswalt, SP, PHI
2/12/2012
News: The Sports Xchange reports Phillies general manager Ruben Amaro Jr. defused a FOXSports.com report that his team remained in the hunt to re-sign Roy Oswalt. "We really don't have any room for him," Amaro told MLB.com. "We have five, six starters, and our resources are about where we want to be right now. I think he wouldn't mind coming back, but I don't know that's feasible or a real possibility."
Analysis: The Phillies surfaced as a possible destination for Oswalt after rumors surfaced again that the team wanted to trade Joe Blanton. It seems the Phillies have no immediate plans to bring Oswalt aboard, but we will have to continue to track his offseason progress. Fortunately, all of the teams linked to Oswalt are expected contenders, but even so, Oswalt would be at best a No. 4 Fantasy SP given his chronic back woes and declining numbers.

 
 
 
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