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Dave Richard

Offseason Extra: QB tiers for 2012

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Dave Richard's tiers and strategies: RB | WR | TE

When to draft a quarterback? That's the question everyone will have to ask themselves -- and answer -- in 2012. You could go early on a stud, wait a little longer and land someone almost as good, or wait a while longer and clinch some great values. The choice every owner makes here will shape his or her draft strategy.

There is absolutely no shortage of quality Fantasy quarterback talent this upcoming year. None. Barring a slew of preseason injuries, pretty much every owner in every league with 12 owners or fewer will have ample opportunity to land a starter with 4,000-yard, 25-touchdown potential.

Of course, 4,000 yards and 25 touchdowns might not cut it anymore. Not when we're coming off a season where six quarterbacks threw for over 4,500 yards (three went over 5,000 yards) and nine had at least 30 total touchdowns. Everyone sees the NFL as a pass-first, explosive offense type of league; as such, the demand for a quarterback stud is at an all-time high.

That's not to say it's right to take one early, but it's worth thinking about. Truth is, there is no right answer. The decision on when to pull the trigger on a quarterback will vary from owner to owner, from league to league. If you're in a standard 10-team format where passing touchdowns aren't worth as much as rushing and receiving touchdowns, you might not want to spend an early pick on a quarterback. Heck, if you're in a league with only 10 owners you might not want to rush getting a quarterback regardless of the rules because there are so many good signal-callers to go around. The opposite is obviously true in leagues with 16-plus owners and leagues that start multiple quarterbacks. In those types of formats you could expect a bull rush of quarterbacks getting picked from the jump.

If you're in the middle -- a 12- or 14-team league -- then the decision on when to take a quarterback warrants some thought.

Consistency Counts
The average Fantasy point total per game among Top 12 QBs was 22.1 (standard scoring). Here's who had at least 22 Fantasy points in at least three games.
Player No. of
22+ FPTS
Player No. of
22+ FPTS
Aaron Rodgers 14 Philip Rivers 5
Drew Brees 13 Ryan Fitzpatrick 4
Tom Brady 11 Matt Hasselbeck 4
Cam Newton 11 Mark Sanchez 4
Matthew Stafford 9 Andy Dalton 3
Eli Manning 8 Matt Moore 3
Tony Romo 7 Ben Roethlisberger 3
Michael Vick 7 Matt Schaub 3
Matt Ryan 6 Tim Tebow 3

Advantages to going quarterback early

There's no better way to put this: You're not going to get a Top 5 quarterback without spending a Top 25 pick. Just the way it will be. As it stands now there's a significant shortage of reliable Fantasy running backs to take in Round 1, which means owners will quickly move on to the safe picks of stud quarterbacks if they're not inclined to grab a receiver like Calvin Johnson or a rusher with some risk like Marshawn Lynch. Consistent stat production is the key with anyone you take early on and no position offers that like this one. Generally speaking, quarterbacks put up more stats and therefore more Fantasy points than other players.

And by taking a quarterback early you're essentially committing to him for the season. That's not a problem unless you're a die-hard matchup player and can't stomach the idea of a stud eventually facing a challenge, like Brady facing the Jets twice a year. But one additional perk in following this plan is that you won't necessarily have to draft a backup and can use that roster spot on an extra running back or receiver. When the time comes to replace your quarterback during his bye week, you can find someone off waivers (maybe even a week or two in advance).

Now if your stud quarterback goes down for the year with an injury, your season is probably in serious jeopardy. And of course if the quarterback you take stinks, your season is probably ruined as well. But those aren't commonplace, at least among quarterbacks, so don't consider them major deterrents. The real drawback to this strategy is that you'll pass on an elite player in Round 1 or an excellent player in Round 2 in exchange for one of these luxuries. You might not find that to be such a bad thing depending on where you pick and who's available.

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Will it pay to wait until late?

Last year I floated the idea of waiting a long time to draft a quarterback. The strategy likely worked or didn't work based on whether or not Matthew Stafford or Cam Newton was one of the quarterbacks you ended up snaking late. Those of you who drafted Sam Bradford or Joe Flacco late probably aren't big fans of this blueprint.

But with the quarterback talent pool deeper than ever, might it pay off to once again consider waiting until at least Round 7 to land a quarterback, followed up with the selection of another quarterback (or two!) later on? It's worth considering, especially if you just don't believe in drafting a passer early on and/or like loading up on very good skill-position players knowing full well that somebody will be there for the taking later on. The smaller the league (figure any league with 10 or fewer owners), the better this plan should work.

Additionally, every year quarterbacks taken long after the early rounds emerge as Fantasy heroes (Stafford and Newton last season, Vick in 2010), so by waiting you can take a stab or two at quarterbacks who might completely outperform their draft position.

Remember, going with this plan means committing to playing the matchups. It's pretty much a 180-degree turn from taking one quarterback with a Top 25 pick and going with that guy week in and week out. There's risk involved if you miss on your picks here (and miss on waiver-wire quarterbacks during the season), but if you strike gold, you're essentially a lock to be in a position to make your league's playoffs.

Going early on the late strategy

Maybe waiting a long time for a quarterback isn't the right move for you. So here's something new for 2012: Go early and go late. For those of us who have been drafting quarterbacks without reaching for a long time, this would be called "drafting normally."

This idea makes sound sense: Wait until after the first five elite quarterbacks get taken, then set your sights on one of those next four quarterbacks (in my rankings it's Rivers, Eli Manning, Romo and Vick). They're a good value in late Round 3/early Round 4 or so, so grab one. Then draft another quarterback in Round 8 or 9, someone with some potential to finish as a Top 12 option. We're talking about someone like Tebow, Dalton or perhaps Schaub or Palmer if they slip that far.

This strategy minimizes risk -- you're not waiting forever with your fingers crossed for a couple of good quarterbacks who might fizzle out and you're not spending a Top 30 pick on a passer and missing out on a great player at another position. And you could still end up with a fine starter and a backup who can bring you something valuable in trade. Most Fantasy owners have done this strategy year after year, albeit waiting until maybe Round 10 or 11 to get that second quarterback, so this isn't a drastic variation in drafting by comparison.

Just how deep are we talking?

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We're not going to waste a lot of time dissecting the elite guys at the top of our rankings. It's pretty obvious why Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees, Tom Brady, Cam Newton and Matthew Stafford make up the five best quarterbacks you could draft in 2012, so it's probably better to focus on who's left -- and it's an absolute who's who of passers to pick from.

The best part? None of these guys should be swiped before 35th overall in any draft, making them good values.

Low risk, high reward: Philip Rivers, Eli Manning, Tony Romo ... There's no such thing as a sure thing, but these quarterbacks have done well over their careers and can essentially be considered bargains on Draft Day. All three play in pass-oriented offenses (no need to worry about a lot of handoffs) and have 250-yard, two-touchdown potential every single week. If we're talking Round 4 or later for these guys, they're almost worth targeting over the elite-tier quarterbacks.

High risk, high reward: Michael Vick, Peyton Manning ... Injuries make these guys iffy. Vick isn't a 16-game player and Manning hasn't even been cleared to practice after his neck surgeries. But both carry the potential to deliver huge Fantasy points, which is why people will take stabs on them when drafts come around. Obviously Manning's situation is subject to change -- he might even be on a different team -- but for now he's fairly risky and more of a Round 5 type of quarterback. Vick might not last as long -- he did have at least 22 Fantasy points in seven of 13 starts -- but still requires an excellent backup.

Medium risk, medium reward: Matt Ryan, Ben Roethlisberger, Matt Schaub, Carson Palmer ... These guys just don't quite have the potential of the elite group or the low-risk, high-reward group. Whether it's injuries (Roethlisberger, Schaub) or inconsistent play (Ryan, Schaub), they're not viewed as great choices. But they are good enough to settle on with a pick between Rounds 6 and 7, and in some cases owners can draft two of these guys and play the matchups. If there's one who can make the jump, it's Ryan. He's got a great receiving corps and only needs his offensive line to protect him better to have a chance at taking the next step in his career. If he's a potential 4,500-yard, 30-touchdown passer and he's there in Round 6, you'd be nuts to pass on him.

This year's Cam?

Naturally, everyone craves the sleeper quarterback who can be had late in drafts and develops into a Top 10 Fantasy choice. The Cam Newton type who breaks out while being under the radar heading into Fantasy drafts.

While we can't guarantee that any of these quarterbacks will finish as Top 10 options, we do recognize their potential. Maybe you should too.

Sam Bradford, St. Louis: 2011 was an unmitigated disaster for Bradford. He had to learn Josh McDaniels' offense in a short amount of time and got hurt after several of his receivers and linemen got hurt. He didn't have a single game with multiple touchdowns and had over 250 yards passing in three of 10 starts. He'll have a chance to recover this offseason as the Rams brought in Brian Schottenheimer to run the offense and will get back several players in time for training camp. There's no denying his talent, he just needs some stability to become successful and the Rams have done that for him.

Andy Dalton, Cincinnati: There's a lot to be excited about here. He's got the stud receiver (A.J. Green), the burly tight end (Jermaine Gresham) and will run Jay Gruden's offense for a second season. If the Bengals add a stud running back that draws opposing safeties in, or stand pat with a declining run game which would mean more pass attempts, then things could get really interesting. Getting over the hump vs. the Steelers and Ravens (four touchdowns, five interceptions, 50.3 comp. pct., 6.36 yards/att.) would be a must.

Tim Tebow, Denver: It might not always be pretty but Tebow has a way of putting together stats to help out Fantasy owners, especially in favorable matchups. The idea of him working with John Elway this offseason to improve his game is appealing; anything that can be improved there will go a long way. Nearly 20 percent of Tebow's completions were good for 20-plus yards, he had seven starts with multiple touchdowns and he averaged 56 rush yards per game (the equivalent of 125 passing yards in Fantasy). So long as he utilizes his legs, he'll be relevant.

Matt Flynn, free agent: Flynn will be this year's Kevin Kolb: The former backup loaded with potential that lands as a starter with a new team. Does it mean he'll end up playing like Kolb did in 2011? It's possible, but it's also impossible to ignore that he completed 55 of 81 passes (67.9 pct.) for 731 yards with nine touchdowns and two interceptions in two career starts (at the Pats, vs. the Lions). Someone will take a chance on him in the NFL this March, and someone will take a chance on him in Fantasy this summer.

Others on the radar: Jay Cutler, Chicago; Joe Flacco, Baltimore; Blaine Gabbert, Jacksonville; Kevin Kolb, Arizona; Matt Moore, Miami; Christian Ponder, Minnesota; Mark Sanchez, N.Y. Jets.

Two more to factor in

As if you don't already have a lot to think about, there's this: Andrew Luck, the highest-rated quarterback prospect since Peyton Manning, will begin his career in 2012. He's considered a can't-miss thanks to a great, accurate arm to go with awesome size and athleticism. He's even got a little speed in his legs and could total 200 to 300 rushing yards per season.

And if he doesn't tickle your fancy then fellow rookie quarterback Robert Griffin III might. Griffin has essentially as good of an arm as Luck with the accuracy and football smarts to boot. His four-year collegiate stats (66.9 comp. pct., 10,071 yards, 77 touchdowns, 17 interceptions) are incredible. And he's a former track star, so you know he can get things going with his feet (2,199 rushing yards and 32 rushing touchdowns).

Not only are these guys terrific prospects, but judging by the track records of rookie quarterbacks over the last four years, they are candidates to be excellent Fantasy options. We're not going to rank them yet because they don't have an NFL team, but assuming that they go where we think they'll go (figure Indianapolis for Luck and Washington or Cleveland for Griffin) and they start right away, they'll be in a position to put up some pretty solid numbers. And, they can be drafted as No. 2 Fantasy quarterbacks -- and believe it or not, Griffin might be better than Luck for Fantasy.

The Tiers

Elite Value Elite Very Good
5000+ yards, 35+ TDs 4500+ yards, 30+ TDs 4000+ yards, 25+ TDs
Aaron Rodgers Philip Rivers Peyton Manning
Drew Brees Eli Manning Matt Ryan
Tom Brady Tony Romo Ben Roethlisberger
Cam Newton Michael Vick Matt Schaub
Matthew Stafford    
No. 2 Upside No. 2 Less Upside Remaining QBs
3500+ yards, 20+ TDs    
Carson Palmer Joe Flacco Alex Smith
Tim Tebow Mark Sanchez Matt Hasselbeck
Andy Dalton Christian Ponder Matt Cassel
Ryan Fitzpatrick Josh Freeman Matt Flynn
Jay Cutler   Kevin Kolb
Sam Bradford   Blaine Gabbert

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Kellen Winslow
Winslow a 'rotational player?'
Kellen Winslow, TE, SEA
5/25/2012
News: Kellen Winslow became a Seahawk recently, and he's spoken highly of his new team. But it remains how they'll use him and how often they'll use him. According to SiriusXM NFL Radio, a league personnel executive believes that Winslow's best days are behind him. "We talked to the Bucs before the draft and talked about (Winslow) further internally," said the source. "We just didn't think he could be more than a rotational player at this point (in his career) after examining his tape and performance."
Analysis: Winslow had 75 receptions for 763 yards and two TDs in 2011 and has caught at least 66 passes in each of his last three years while not missing a game. There is definitely a perception that he's old and over the hill, which his receiving average (10.2 yards per catch last year) supports. And he joins a crowded tight end corps in Seattle, but should be a fairly regular player in the offense. Problem is, he hasn't been productive enough to be considered reliable for Fantasy use week after week. He's fine as a No. 2 Fantasy TE worth a late pick, but don't expect him to put up huge numbers.

Jamaal Charles
Charles to rest until camp
Jamaal Charles, RB, KC
5/25/2012
News: The Kansas City Star reports that the Chiefs will rest running back Jamaal Charles until training camp in late July. He is not expected to participate in their minicamp as he continues to rehab and work his way back from a torn ACL suffered last September. Head coach Romeo Crennel hopes Charles will be cleared in time for camp.
Analysis: Charles has been vocal about being ready for the season, calling himself hungry and passionate to return to form. But the fact remains that he's coming off of a major injury and isn't promised to have any of the explosiveness he had before he got hurt. Tack on the Chiefs' addition of Peyton Hillis (Charles thinks Hillis will get the tough yards and goal-line work like Thomas Jones was supposed to previously), and there's a limit to Charles' 2012 expectations. So long as Charles proves that he's ready to roll, Fantasy owners should be optimistic. Assuming he's fine, Charles will be worth taking in the early rounds on Draft Day, but more as a No. 2 Fantasy RB. Plan on drafting Charles between 25th and 35th overall in all leagues.

Hakeem Nicks
Source: Nicks could return before camp
Hakeem Nicks, WR, NYG
5/25/2012
News: ESPN reports that a source familiar with the broken bone in Hakeem Nicks' foot says the receiver might miss four-to-six weeks recovering from the injury and not the 12-week timeframe the Giants said on Thursday. Nicks fractured the fifth metatarsal of his right foot during an OTA practice. The team is hoping to have him back at some point during training camp and the preseason.
Analysis: Unless the diagnosis on Nicks' foot changes, we're not believers that he'll be ready in six weeks and thus long before the start of training camp. Nicks' teammate, Prince Amukamara, took 15 weeks before he was comfortable practicing last year according to the Newark Star-Ledger and he had the same injury. Nicks has had all sorts of issues with hamstrings, knees and his feet over the years. So long as he is healthy for the start of the season and gets some work in camp and a preseason game or two, the injury is more of a reminder that he's injury prone and less of a factor on his 2012 season. We'll see if this lasts into late August and the regular season; for now expect his stock to slip in drafts. He'll be a Round 3-4 choice as a low-end No. 1/high-end No. 2 Fantasy receiver.

Ben Roethlisberger
Roethlisberger admits to issues with new playbook
Ben Roethlisberger, QB, PIT
5/25/2012
News: Ben Roethlisberger's transition to new offensive coordinator Todd Haley's playbook is not going as smoothly as Steelers fans had hoped. Roethlisberger said Thursday that so far it's been "frustrating at times" but that he's going to put in "extra work" to understand what Haley wants him to do. "I think coach (Haley) really wants to challenge us," Big Ben said on a radio interview, per the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review. "Me, maybe, in particular, I think he felt like I was real comfortable with the old offense, which ... I don't know why that's a bad thing. But I'm not the head coach."
Analysis: There's all sorts of talk that Haley wants Roethlisberger to stay in the pocket to avoid excess hits and that Haley wants to run the ball more. We're not sure how this is going to play out, but we do think there's a chance Roethlisberger could attempt a ton of passes given that Rashard Mendenhall is out and Isaac Redman, while talented, might not be a 20-touch back from week to week. Much of the offense might fall on Roethlisberger's shoulders. We consider Big Ben a low-end No. 1 Fantasy QB in all leagues well worth a mid-round pick.

Sam Bradford
Bradford's ankle 'getting there'
Sam Bradford, QB, STL
5/25/2012
News: Rams quarterback Sam Bradford said his left ankle, injured in October at Green Bay, is nearly 100 percent. "It's getting there," he said. "It feels better every week -- less soreness, more things I can do. It's definitely on the right track."
Analysis: There's no questioning his arm as several Rams receivers, including their rookies, have been in awe over his passing skills. Bradford is continuing to learn the Rams' new offense and says it's close to the West Coast offense he ran two season ago. But with a so-so offensive line and an unproven receiving corps, now's not the time to call Bradford a breakout candidate. He should have some good games, but no one should consider him either a Fantasy starter or a blue chip prospect. For now we're resigned to calling him a late-round pick as a good, not great, No. 2 quarterback.

Matt Hasselbeck
Titans' Palmer breaks down QB battle
Matt Hasselbeck, QB, TEN
5/25/2012
News: It's no secret that the Titans will have a competition for the starting quarterback job between veteran Matt Hasselbeck and second-year gunslinger Jake Locker. What remains to be seen is when they'll name a starter. Offensive coordinator Chris Palmer told the media Thursday that the job is up for grabs, that no preseason starts have been promised and that the coaching staff will pick a winner based on who can lead the team to wins, starting in Week 1 against the Patriots. Palmer said that while Locker's mobility is very appealing, Hasselbeck's experience and body of work from last season also gives him a chance to remain the starter. "Jake may not give all the other guys the opportunity to make plays like Matt does, but Jake can make plays with his legs," Palmer concluded. "When you add up how many plays Matt can make with the team and how many plays Jake can make with the team then you kind of have an idea who's going to give us the best chance to win."
Analysis: Hasselbeck started every game for the Titans in 2011 and threw for 3,571 yards with 18 scores and 14 interceptions. But when Locker did play, he did well, passing for four touchdowns with no interceptions and rushing for 56 yards on eight carries with a touchdowns run. Locker's completion percentage continued to be an eyesore (34 of 66 passing for 51.5 pct.), but the stats speak for themselves. Unless Locker can really prove that he's progressed as a passer, Hasselbeck is likely to take this job -- though there's no promise he'll start every game. Neither Titans QB should be drafted with anything more than a late-round pick. We'll keep you posted on the battle.

Brandon Lloyd
Lloyd already up to speed with Pats
Brandon Lloyd, WR, NE
5/25/2012
News: New Patriots receiver Brandon Lloyd has been impressive during the team's OTAs, but many people expected that. After all, Lloyd is on his third stop with offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels and knows the playbook and play calls like the back of his hand. Lloyd has been so impressive that the Boston Globe reports that Patriots quarterbacks have been looking for him all week because he's been exactly where he needs to be on every play. Lloyd was coy when it came to his role and his goals for this season but gave a pretty simple explanation on why he wanted to follow McDaniels to New England. "You find something good, you stick with it," he said. "I think that's the case for everybody, with everything in life."
Analysis: Lloyd had 51 catches for 683 yards and five scores last year in 11 games in St. Louis when McDaniels was the offensive coordinator, and that came on the heels of a 77-catch, 1,448-yard, 11-touchdown season with McDaniels in Denver. He'll probably see a dip in opportunities because he'll share the field with so many other great weapons there. But he should still be about as productive as a No. 3 Fantasy receiver and should be drafted as such with a mid-round pick.

Ronnie Hillman
Tamme: Hillman looks good
Ronnie Hillman, RB, DEN
5/25/2012
News: In an interview with Moving The Chains on SiriusXM NFL Radio, new Broncos tight end Jacob Tamme gave an encouraging scouting report on rookie rusher Ronnie Hillman. "He seems to have a lot of quickness," Tamme said. "I've got to see him carry a few and catch some passes, he seems like a guy who can really move and sort of be a threat from the scatback-type position."
Analysis: Yep, that sounds like Hillman, who averaged over 130 total yards per game in 2011 with 20 total touchdowns while breaking some of Marshall Faulk's records at San Diego State. Hillman isn't a big back (5-foot-9, 200 pounds) but definitely plays bigger than he is. He's done good work between the tackles but is better known for his lateral agility and breakaway speed. Landing in Denver is nice since he won't be stuck behind a young back for long -- Willis McGahee will turn 31 in October and Knowshon Moreno is coming off of a torn ACL. We could see Hillman contribute this season, especially if he can perfect his pass blocking and receiving skills. Expect him to be taken late in all seasonal drafts as well as with a mid-to-late pick in dynasty/keeper leagues and a second-round pick in rookie-only formats.

Jacob Tamme
Tamme talks offense, role
Jacob Tamme, TE, DEN
5/25/2012
News: In an interview with Moving The Chains on SiriusXM NFL Radio, new Broncos tight end Jacob Tamme sounded very excited to follow quarterback Peyton Manning to Denver from Indy, adding that he "looks great." Tamme's also excited about the direction of the new offense, calling it a mix of what he did with Manning with the Colts and what offensive coordinator Mike McCoy wants to do. On the topic of his specific role with the Broncos, Tamme didn't want to give away much but did offer what he thinks is great about being a tight end. "I'm comfortable in slot and love that, but I would say I lined up on the line of scrimmage more than everywhere else [with the Colts]," Tamme said. " ... We should be able to move around and what we're going to do offensively, hopefully, we'll be able to move around some. I think that's what's great about playing tight end these days, you get to do everything. It's what makes the position a lot of fun."
Analysis: If we're reading between the lines, the Broncos could use Tamme as a tight end, slot receiver and H-back this season, all roles he's capable of playing as evidenced by his time in Indianapolis. Being comfortable with Manning is also built-in thanks to their relationship back in Indiana. Tamme had just 177 yards on 19 catches in 2011 with one score, but he worked behind starter Dallas Clark in a Manning-less Colts offense. In 10 games without Dallas Clark in 2010, Tamme caught 67 passes for 631 yards and four touchdowns. Expect him to have some Clark-like potential and thus get swiped with a middle- to late-round pick in drafts this summer as a borderline No. 1/No. 2 TE.

Stephen Hill
Hill lines up as starter in OTAs
Stephen Hill, WR, NYJ
5/25/2012
News: Jets rookie receiver Stephen Hill lined up opposite Santonio Holmes with the first-team offense during their recent OTAs. He caught a 75-yard touchdown pass from Mark Sanchez, burning cornerback Kyle Wilson in the process, according to the Newark Star-Ledger.
Analysis: The Jets aren't going to have a dominant pass attack, so that could limit Hill's production. But he does have the chance for plenty of playing time, which is a plus. He's worth a late-round pick in seasonal formats, a middle- to late-round pick in dynasty/keeper leagues and a Top 20 pick in rookie-only drafts.

 
 
 
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